#17 "Annen", "annet", "andre" : another confusing topic in Norwegian [grammatikk] [vokabular]

Introduction and Episode Welcome

hello , hello and welcome to another episode featuring me and nobody else but me . I hope you're not sick and tired of hearing my voice . If so , I'm sorry . If you want me to invite some people , then let me know . Maybe that could be a fun experience . Anyway , today is another episode , and I wanted to start with that sentence in Norwegian . Welcome to another episode .

Velkommen til enda en episode . Enda en I didn't say en annen , which this podcast is about

"Annet" and "Annen" Usage Explained

. No Et annet , en annen en andre , three words that people very often get confused about Annen , annet , andre . I didn't say that , I said enda en episode , and the reason why I wanted to pinpoint that is because another can mean two things in English . It can mean another , as in English , it can mean another , as in one extra , okay , a new one . In that case we say enda en or enda ett , depending on the gender after . So , enda en episode , one other episode , a new episode , or one extra episode . Enda ett glass , one other glass . So if you're like , oh God , another one , you can say oh , enda en . Oh , my god , haven't we had enough already ? So that is not the meaning of anden , andet and andre , the meaning of those three words , and I'm going to go into the details of how to use each of them , but the meaning of them is it's like saying a different one , right ? So it's more neutral not the same , but a different one , right ? So if you're pinpointing , no , it wasn't that time , it was another time , it was a different one , and when talking about people , it was not that person , it was someone else . Okay , so , not that one , but a different one . That's how we're going to use those three words to talk about , to identify something that is not that thing , but it's not something else . Okay , so two first ones are super easy to use . Annett is used together with the article ett , so if the thing that you're pointing at is neutral , then that's the one to use . For instance , ett annet hus , another house , different house . Ett annet sted , a different place . Not that place , but a different place . Not that place , but a different one , a different place . No , did I say that twice , oh god . A different question . Another question , not that one , but a different one . Okay , annen , still simple , use it with en En annen gang , a different time . En annen episode , a different episode . En annen kopp , a different kopp , not that kopp , but a different one . Annen kopp , a different kopp , not that kopp , but a different one . Okay , now I said it really in a very formal way .

Normally people don't say annett and annen , unless they really want to say it slowly or emphasize . But in general people just say ant et anthus et antsted , or maybe with a long a ant Et anthus Et antsted ,

Common Pronunciations and Duck Warning

or maybe with a long A Ant , ant , you can say both ant or ant . That's more common . And then the other one . Instead of saying annen , they would say an , just either an short one , an or an , an . So you could say en an gang , en an gang , en an gang , en an gang . Okay , that's easier and more effective . Okay , so we've covered annet or ant . That's easier and more effective . Okay , so we've covered annet or ant , annen or an . These are easy and I don't want to spend more time on them .

There's just one thing I wanted to add an , an , not an . An can also mean duck , depending on the context , and an probably it's better to prolong it so that it's not misunderstood with duck and an . It's better an and an . And an can also mean someone else , so it can directly refer to people , to to a person . So very often we don't add the word person , I don't say another person , I just say another , another one and depending on the context , that can . That by itself can just mean someone else , another person , and we do that a lot . We skip saying person , we just say like , for instance , mange can mean many people . We don't necessarily say mange personer , we just say mange , okay , yeah . And then yeah , same thing with andre .

Understanding "Andre" in Different Contexts

So now we're going over to the last one that can have different meanings . And the first meaning I'm going to add is other people . Andre by itself can mean andre folk , other people . So first meaning is plural when you're talking about something or someone , plural , many , many of something . So if I don't add anything , it can mean other people or others or other things . If I'm referring to something specific Other cups , other friends , other questions , other times Okay .

So whenever you describe something that there are more of than one , you use andre . If you have studied the different forms of adjectives , regular adjectives , you know that normally you put an e-ending to the adjective when you have more of it . So you would , for instance , say hyggelige vänner , right , nice friends , fina spørsmål , good questions , or pretty questions , depending on the context , or pretty questions , depending on the context . So adding andre is the equivalent of that e that you normally add to an adjective and an adjective with an e . If you have paid attention in your lessons , you know that that's not the only function . The e adds to the adjective . An e to a regular adjective also is used when you want to talk about something definite , for instance , when I want to say the nice question , det fine spørsmålet , andre also has that function . It's also there to define whatever you're talking about .

Whenever you want to say the something , something Okay , and notice that it's not enough to say andre , I also have to add something equivalent to the . In English and this can be super confusing because in English you have the question , right , the question . When I want to say the question , I don't say the , I say question , the . I put the article in the end of the word . Right , spørsmålet , spørsmålet . I add it in the end of question . So why do I suddenly need to add an article before ? Or ? It's not really an article , it's called determinative . But it has the same function as a definite article . So we can call it a definite article just for the sake of making it simple .

When you add an adjective to a noun , okay . So for instance , nice is an adjective , good is an adjective , blue is an adjective . Good is an adjective , blue is an adjective . Any word describing a thing , adding information about that thing , can be called an adjective , whenever I add that . And if I want to use that adjective to define which thing I'm talking about , not just to add information about it , right , if I say en fin bil , a nice car , I'm not defining which car I'm talking about , I'm just adding information about a car . Right , but if I say the nice car , den fina bilen , then the function of the adjective is to pinpoint which car I'm talking about . Right , I'm talking about the nice car , not the ugly one , for instance .

So that is when you need to use what we call the definite form . That is when you need to use what we

Ordinals vs "Other": Avoiding Confusion

call the definite form , the form that defines which thing you're talking about . And when you use definite form , you have to add one of the three determinatives or articles in front Den , de or die . So andre , in this case , cannot stand by itself . You need to add den de or di in front . So if I want to say the other time , time being masculine , I start with den , den andre gangen and notice that I still add en in the end of gangen . So what I'm actually saying here , hold on , is the , the other the time , if you take the definite form of other , so den andre gangen , the other time . If I want to say the other question , the question is neutral . So I will say det andre spørsmålet , det andre spørsmålet , det andre spørsmålet , the other times , de , de , de andre gangene , the other questions , de andre spørsmålene , the the other , the questions , de andre spørsmålene , the the other the questions . So when you talk about something specific in Norwegian , you are sure you can be sure that you're not misunderstanding , because every single word is definite .

Now , I forgot to mention the feminine nouns . If you use a feminine noun , so for instance jente , and you want to say another girl , you can say I , an jente , so you can use the masculine form . You can also , if you want to use Anna , ei , anna , jente . That's less common in written Norwegian , but it's yeah , you choose whatever you prefer and then you use the same plural form for plural . So andre jenter , that doesn't change . And den andre jenta , the other girl , so same as masculine , den first .

Now , if you have learned the ordinals Første , andre , tredje , etc , etc , at least the two first ones , then you might be asking yourself what , hold on . Andre , that means second . How can that mean both second and other ? So how do we differentiate ? Because , yes , it can mean both . It can mean other and second . Now ordinals første , andre , tredje , fjärde , femte right , first , second , third , fourth , etc .

They are a little bit special . The thing with them is that when you use an ordinal , you're very , very sure about which thing you're talking about . Right , if I say the second time , that can only refer to one specific time , right , there's only one second time . Or the third time there's only one third time . Right , only one possible reference , whereas if I say the other time , that can have a lot of different references . Right there , there , there are many other times . Normally , unless there was only one other time , then for sure , then there's only one reference , but in general it can refer to more than one time .

So , which means that the word second in itself is definite . It doesn't have to , you don't have to use three words to define which time you're talking about , because the word is inherently definite . And we have not only ordinals but some other adjectives as well . And we have not only ordinals but some other adjectives as well , like nästa förja , sista sist . Those are also inherently definite because we know exactly which thing we're referring to . So when you use ordinals or any of these other adjectives , you do not have to use definite form .

So instead of saying the second time , I can just say second time , andre gang , förste gang , first time , andre gang , first time , andre gang , second time . Even though I'm not saying den andre gangen , I know for sure it's the second one . So when you use andre with a noun in indefinite form , a no article , first , it can only mean second , it cannot be mean other , right ? So andre gang can only mean second time . But if I do choose to put it in definite form , then andre gangen . I can also do that , and in that case only the context will help you understand whether it's the other and the or the second . And sometimes it doesn't really matter which one it means , because it mean it can mean more or less the same thing if you think about it , because the second time is also another time , and especially if there were only two times , then you're good to go um . So yeah , when you say andre gang ,

Compound Words and Final Thoughts

it can only mean second time .

Andre spørsmål can mean second time or other questions , depending on the context . So what now ? Yeah , yeah , last one , last one , last example , because sometimes we want to say a second , something , something , for instance . Well , the best example I can come up with is a second interview . Right , if you get a job interview and you go to the second round , you come to your second interview . So you can say , ah , I got a second interview , a second , not the second , but a second .

In that case you will still use andre , so you would say ett andre intervju or ett andre jobintervju . That's one way to say it . Another way to say it , which is a little bit longer , is with a compound word . So you're gonna say andregangsintervju , andregangsintervju , in one word , other times , interview , so the S , there is a connector , no , sorry , connecting S Andregangsintervju as andregangsintervju . So we have førstegangsintervju , first time interview , andregangsintervju . And if there are many , many interviews , you have tredjegangsintervju , fjärregangsintervju , and hopefully it's not more than that . Okay , so that's also an option or just Cool . I hope that makes sense . As always , if you have any questions , just write me wherever you are in the comment field and feel free to make any examples if you , or if you have any sentence that , if you have any sentences that you are unsure about . Just put them in the comment field and I will try to guide you and figure out what it means or why it's written in the way it is . Tack för idag . Vi hördes , thank you .